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John Paul II
1225 [78] Posted by: Graham Kings Monday 4 April 2005 - 10:17pm

Concerning our mourning of the passing of Pope John Paul II, I've been stuck by the response of the media and of many members of the public. The figure of a Universal Primate comes to mind, but in the ARCIC documents, what was envisioned was very different from the present papacy.

 

Below are links to two perceptive articles by Clifford Longley in The Guardian (2 April 2005) and in The Independent (4 April 2005).

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1450710,00.html#article_continue

 

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=626121

 

 


Canadian Primate on autonomy [not in communion]
1226 [77] Posted by: Graham Kings Thursday 24 March 2005 - 06:49pm

There is now an official version of the controversial comments of Archbishop Andrew Hutchinson, the Canadian Primate, on 16 March 2005 at St James Cathedral, Toronto.

 

http://www.toronto.anglican.ca/index.asp?navid=78&fid3=368&layid=18&fid2=-888

 

Below is an extract:

 

'At the last Canadian General Synod, the Primates Theological Commission was asked to determine whether same-sex blessings are a pastoral or doctrinal issue. In response to a question, the Primate said that if the issue is pastoral, there will be no delay in moving forward with the blessings. Justice must be done in our time, in our place, in our way, he said to loud applause. Freedom to act in conscience is what autonomy is about.'

 

So much for the 'autonomy-in-communion' of the Windsor Report!

 

In our London Maundy Thursday service this morning at St Paul's Cathedral, I was struck by Bishop Richard Chartres' comment concerning current secular prophets:

 

'In [God] we know that the deadliest heresy of our time proclaimed by the prophets of darkness is this I do not need you to be myself.

 

For the whole text see:

 

http://www.london.anglican.org/NewsShow_4429

 


Primates' Meeting Feb 2005
1227 [76] Posted by: Graham Kings Sunday 20 March 2005 - 03:00pm

Thanks, Paul. Yes, I think it may well be good for such issues as representation to be discussed at our Fulcrum conference in Islington on 29 April. How the Holy Spirit incites insights on current issues is important. There will be group discussions and plenary panels.

The letter to The Times, coming so soon after the Primates' Meeting, may have been ill timed, as indicated by recent precipitously provocative developments in the Anglican Church of Canada. However, the knee jerk reaction in some Chelmsford parishes seems to me to be unnecessary. The Windsor Report and the Primates Communique have given support to those who oppose the consecration of bishops living in sexual relationships outside of marriage: this is the 'established' central position. I hope very much that some evangelicals will not spoil this momentum by sniping from the sidelines.


Primates' Meeting Feb 2005
1228 [72] Posted by: Graham Kings Saturday 26 February 2005 - 01:24pm

There is also a fine new Church Times article by Pat Ashworth on the CT web page below, which describes the press conference and reaction.

http://churchtimes.co.uk/80256FA1003E05C1/httpPublicPages/349632E9319CD24F80256FB3007E5AC2?opendocument

 


Primates' Meeting Feb 2005
1229 [71] Posted by: Graham Kings Saturday 26 February 2005 - 01:15pm

There are photos of the final eucharist (yes there was one) etc of the Primates' Meeting  on

http://www.anglicancommunion.org/acns/articles/39/50/acns3950.cfm

There is an updated editorial from the Church Times on

http://churchtimes.co.uk/80256fa1003e05c1/httppublicpages/7c52b52e14f745cf80256fb2003d7fb9?opendocument

Any comments?  Graham Kings


Article on John Stott and Evangelicalism in New York Times
1230 [70] Posted by: Graham Kings Saturday 11 December 2004 - 11:08pm

There was a fascinating article on John Stott and evangelicalism recently in The New York Times, which contrasted Stott with Jerry Falwell: 'Who is John Stott' by David Brooks, Nov 30th 2004. Unfortunately, you have to fill in some details before getting the free access to the online version: if you don't mind that, it is worth it.

www.nytimes.com/2004/11/30/opinion/30brooks.html

Here is a taster: " To read Stott is to see someone practicing "thoughtful allegiance" to scripture. For him, Christianity means probing the mysteries of Christ. He is always exploring paradoxes. Jesus teaches humility, so why does he talk about himself so much? What does it mean to gain power through weakness, or freedom through obedience? In many cases the truth is not found in the middle of apparent opposites, but on both extremes simultaneously."

In that last sentence, there are 3 speakers. Brooks summarises Stott, who himself echoes Charles Simeon's famous quotation, concerning election and freedom: The truth is not in the middle, and not in one extreme, but in both extremes. Hugh Evan Hopkins, Charles Simeon of Cambridge (London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1977), p. 176.

 


Evangelicalism and God's Creation: McGrath on Dawkins
1231 [64] Posted by: Graham Kings Thursday 18 November 2004 - 01:34am

For fulcrumesque thoughtful apologetics, and encouragement after the media hype linking evangelicalism and anti-evolutionists, see

http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/more_reviews.asp?ref=140512539X&site=1

for reviews of Alister McGrath's recent Blackwell's book 'Dawkins' God: Genes, Memes and the Meaning of Life'


Women Bishops?
1232 [57] Posted by: Graham Kings Saturday 6 November 2004 - 11:40am
I haven't managed to get a copy of the Rochester Report yet and am relying on the Church Times summary on p 3. Dangerous?? My initial response to the options there set out - and I hope they are accurate concerning the report is: Option 1. Simple, single clause legislation (which Inclusive Church and GRAS are going for): not on, for no pastoral and financial concern is provided for those opposed. Option 2. Extended or alternative Episcopal oversight for those opposed: best option. Option 3. Third province (which Forward in Faith and Reform will go for): not on - parallel lines do not meet, and it really would be a full church within a church Option 4. Restrictions to be placed on women bishops - no woman archbishop or diocesans and setting up of specific teams : not on ecclesiologically nor ethically. If we're going for it, we have to go for it. Option 5. Financial provision for opposed clergy who left. Still thinking about this. I consider that we do need some pastoral and financial concern for those opposed, without encouraging them to take the cash and leave.

Women Bishops?
1233 [55] Posted by: Graham Kings Sunday 31 October 2004 - 05:31pm

Let's start a new discussion topic... The Rochester Report on women bishops is due to be published on Tuesday. See the following two links for comments by Carrie Pemberton v Forward in Faith and David Stancliffe v Forward in Faith.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,11026,1340342,00.html

 

  

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1337004,00.html

 

 

 


Windsor Report
1234 [54] Posted by: Graham Kings Friday 29 October 2004 - 09:52am

Marilyn McCord Adams, Regius Prof of Divinity at Oxford, in an article in the Church Times today, assumes that the Anglican Communion is already a loose federation: 'we should stick with the loose federation that has enabled us to work together...' She attacks the Windsor report strongly: 'So far from a way forward, this proposal is pernicious.'

 

With Jack Spong in The Times, some hard line liberals can see that the Windsor Report has teeth - and others, after a first response spin of 'we can live with this', are also beginning to see the point.

 

Peter Jensen, also in the Church Times today, wants to move to looser ties and asks 'why not accept that we are a federation of autonomous Churches?'

 

Federation to extreme right and left: renewing the evangelical centre means  holding to Communion...


Windsor Report
1235 [53] Posted by: Graham Kings Tuesday 26 October 2004 - 07:37am
http://www.anglicancommunioninstitute.org/ Perceptive comments on the Windsor Report by The Revd Prof Christopher Seitz, Professor of Old Testament at the University of St Andrew's, Scotland, and President of the Anglican Communion Institute.

Windsor Report
1236 [52] Posted by: Graham Kings Tuesday 26 October 2004 - 07:34am

http://www.eclecticsconference.org.uk/

The Eclectics Conference 1-4 November 2004 at Swanwick, Derbyshire, UK, will include a plenary on the Windsor Report, and has Dr Esther Mombo, a member of the Lambeth Commission, as one of the speakers. She is the first woman Dean of Studies at St Paul's United Theological College, Limuru, Kenya.

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http://www.pwm-web.org.uk/features/latest.shtml

 The Windsor Report will be discussed at the World Mission Conference: Nov 23 - 25, 2004 organised by Partnership for World Mission, at Swanwick, Derbyshire, UK. A keynote speaker: Dr Rowan Williams.


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