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Lambeth Blog: Bishop Nick Baines
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Posted by: Webmaster |
Tuesday 15 July 2008 - 07:38pm |
 Apologies to Obadiahslope and Mark that your postings were temporarily withdrawn today. You had inadvertently and innocently posted to Nick's blog rather than to this thread. I've now (I hope!) closed the loophole that allowed this, and moved your posts to this thread. Please do not be discouraged from continuing to comment on Nick's blog. |
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Posted by: Obadiahslope |
Monday 14 July 2008 - 11:02pm |
| Mark.
You make a good point. It IS worthwhile considering whether we respond to every controversy in the Anglican Communion in the same manner always urging disputing parties to solve things locally.
The answer most would agree is yes, at least initially.
Sometimes though an emergency might be too great to solve locally. The classic case of this was Rwanda, where the communion as a whole pushed to remove the church leadership involved in massacre.
So for Gafcon leaders to suggest a local solution to the Kunonga issue is consistent with normal anglican practice, following the principle of Subsidarity.
OTOH Fulcrum as a body is supportive of the Windsor process where the TEC and Canadian situations have been seen to merit a communion wide response. Gafcon and Fulcrum disagree on what that response should be. But they are in agreement at least that a communionwide response is required.
So both Fulcrumites and Gafcinites ISTM subscribe to the subsidarity principle, solve problems locally if we can, and only escalate them to the communion level where necessary.
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Posted by: Deleted user 1668 |
Monday 14 July 2008 - 03:29pm |
Yes, they rebuffed him with this piece of complete hypocrisy:
Questioned as to their relationship to Dr Kunonga by ReligiousIntelligence.com, the Archbishops of Kenya and Uganda said that though Dr Kunonga had sought their support, they had told him to work within the structures of the Province of Central Africa.
“The Bishop of Harare came to see us about this request” for Harare to join the Church of Kenya , Archbishop Benjamin Nzimbi said. But he was told “ Harare belongs to Central Africa .”
It was improper for one province to interfere in the internal deliberations of another, the Kenyan archbishop said. “When you face a challenge you don’t run and join another province.” We told Dr Kunonga “go back to the Dean of that province to solve that problem.” |
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Posted by: Obadiahslope |
Monday 14 July 2008 - 01:52pm |
| Bishop Nick,
It would have been helpful if you had read beyond the headline and first par of George Conger's story to find out that Gafcon leaders had already rebuffed Nolbert Kunonga. I guess you are busy getting ready for Lambeth and looking after your guests.
Greetings from Croydon in Sydney. |
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Posted by: pete hobson |
Monday 14 July 2008 - 12:04am |
| O come on L Roberts... Did you actually read Nick Baines' blog for what it was, or just see it as (yet another) chance to 'have a go'? |
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Posted by: Deleted user 974 |
Sunday 13 July 2008 - 05:57pm |
Oh I see that all would be 'gracious' harmony and perfection for the 'bishops and their wives' but for that media-mongering Bishop Robinson.
That is such a shame ! And it was all going to such a lovely, gracious, two-faced party .... |
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Posted by: Webmaster |
Sunday 13 July 2008 - 09:39am |
Fulcrum welcomes the Bishop of Croydon, Nick Baines, as a blogger on the Lambeth Conference. Nick has aready posted his first message, and we welcome comments on his blog on this thread. |
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