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Posted by: Deleted user 629 |
Wednesday 24 November 2004 - 11:40am |
Of course honest talk is the better (and more Christ-like) approach. However I think the real issue is what to do when a parish finds that its attempts to engage in 'honest talk' with the diocese go unheeded. All too often it is only when a parish resorts to 'megaphone diplomacy' threats that it finds it is listened to.
As far as I am aware, very few parishes have gone down the road of quota capping. A well-known conservative example would be Jesmond Parish Church, a well-known charismatic example would be St Mark's Battersea Rise. My understanding is that in both of these cases the PCCs first attempted 'honest talk' and got nowhere. Only when they used 'megaphone diplomacy' did anyone take them seriously.
Incidentally, in neither case did the PCC object to the principle of quota, or or richer churches providing for (evangelical?) poorer ones. Whilst there may be theological questions around quota, in both cases a large part of the objection was to the formula by which quota is calculated. Both churches still pay quota, but have ended up adopting their own formula to calculate it. I think I am right in saying that St Mark's Battersea Rise would be happy to use the quota formula used in north London (London diocese), but object to the formula used in south London (Southwark diocese) which they have called "a tax on church growth."
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Posted by: pete hobson |
Monday 15 November 2004 - 10:59pm |
| I'm an evangelical, and fulcrum member, who also chairs the committee that allocates parish share in our diocese (Leicester). As far as I'm aware no-one here is (at the moment) not paying share because of theological conviction over recent pronouncements/actions - although several are not paying because they don't want to/can't afford to/feel they have different priorities - all of which I guess could be described as a sort of theological conviction. I do reckon you can't honestly even begin to consider witholding parish share with any integrity at all until what you're asked for exceeds what it costs (someone else) to provide the ministry in your patch. Naturally when you're on the side of the gamekeepers you welcome honest talk over megaphone diplomacy, but truth be told either might be preferable to sulky non-acquiescence! |
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Posted by: Simon Cawdell |
Thursday 14 October 2004 - 05:59pm |
 Not all all evangelical parishes should meekly accept diocesan decisions
about quota, but a lot more can be achieved through honest talk than
megaphone diplomacy.
Do you agree?
(Relayed from John Martin) |
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