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A Time to Marry - Twice
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Posted by: Dave |
Thursday 12 July 2012 - 01:08pm |
I would say that the marriage takes place when the registrar says it does i.e. declares "you are now man and wife". I am uneasy about this proposal of two ceremonies because it does not explain the relationship between the two. On my understanding the first ceremony is the marriage and the second a service of blessing. Of cousrse we could have two marriages if marriage meant two different things. This would only lead to confusion. If the state want to base law on a new relationship, it should find a new name for it.
Dave
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Posted by: Deleted user 2359 |
Tuesday 10 July 2012 - 12:03am |
Simply, a marriage takes place for the State when a registrar notes it down, and the registrar can also be a minister of religion. Where a registrar is a minister of religion one would allow an opt out as default position to then have some opt in to the full range of marriages, e.g. gay marriages, and partnerships, e.g.civil partnerships. The C oF E should be disestablished anyway, but its ministers then become registrars. I married in a Unitarian church and indeed wrote the liturgy for the minister (he added comments), but the service included the words that the registrar, sitting at the back, needed to hear. He heard them and we signed and that was his job done. Had the minister been a registrar too, he'd have done it. The marriage had universal recognition thanks to the necessary words.
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Posted by: Ken Petrie |
Monday 9 July 2012 - 03:43pm |
The problem I see with this solution is that Christians would then have to enter the state's definition of marriage as well as the divinely-ordained covenant. The result would be enforced recognition by the individuals, if not by the Church, of the state's claim to define marriage. If I marry, I do not wish to deny God's authority over the condition I enter. I wish to be married according to God's definition, because Jesus made it clear marriage is under divine and not human authority.
I agree the Church should not continue to act as Registrar for a system which has usurped God's authority, but I don't think encouraging its members to blur the distinctive stand by compromising with the secular authorities would be a consistent witness.
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Posted by: Jody |
Monday 9 July 2012 - 03:03pm |
 Dear Friends
we have just published 'A Time to Marry - Twice' by Jonathan Chaplin.
please use this thread for discussion.
blessings, Jody |
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