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 Posted by: Graham Kings Monday 4 April 2005 - 10:17pm

Concerning our mourning of the passing of Pope John Paul II, I've been stuck by the response of the media and of many members of the public. The figure of a Universal Primate comes to mind, but in the ARCIC documents, what was envisioned was very different from the present papacy.

 

Below are links to two perceptive articles by Clifford Longley in The Guardian (2 April 2005) and in The Independent (4 April 2005).

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1450710,00.html#article_continue

 

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=626121

 

 


 Posted by: Graham Kings Monday 4 April 2005 - 10:40pm

For a trenchant, translated article by Hans Kung in Der Spiegel, before the Pope died, 26 March 2005, see:

 

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,348471,00.html

 

For a positive response to John Paul II, see Bruce Anderson in The Independent 4 April 2005:

 

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/bruce_anderson/story.jsp?story=626122


 Posted by: Graham Kings Sunday 10 April 2005 - 03:40pm

Concerning John Paul II, there is a sharp internal debate in The Independent between atheist Johann Hari and Catholic Paul Vallely.

On 8 April 2005, Johann Hari, regular columnist of The Independent, wrote an almost vitriolic assessment of John Paul II, entitled History will judge the Pope far more harshly than the adoring crowds in Rome. His last sentence was: I do not believe John Paul II will face a Judgement Day in Heaven. But one day, the fatuous tributes of the past week will rot, and his name will be cursed here on earth.

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/story.jsp?story=627335

On 9 April 2005, Paul Vallely, the Associate Editor of The Independent, and co-writer of the recent report Commission for Africa,published a significant reply to Hari, concerning HIV and Aids in Africa, Critics need a different stick with which to beat the Pope. He ends with the sentence: Fighting Aids requires changes in African culture far more than in Catholic theology, welcome though that would be also. To suggest otherwise is just sloppy journalism.

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=627599

For Vallelys work on the Commission for Africa see

http://www.commissionforafrica.org/english/about/secretariat-vallely.html

 


 Posted by: Graham Kings Tuesday 19 April 2005 - 01:20pm
There is a new perceptive, theological appreciation and critique of John Paul II on this Fulcrum site by Prof Oliver O'Donovan, of Christ Church Oxford. http://www.fulcrum-anglican.org.uk/docs/2005/20050418odonovan.cfm Any comments on it?

 Posted by: Ian Paul Thursday 21 April 2005 - 08:59pm
What I find a little surprising about this comment is that it talks positively about JPII and ecumenism. I find that rather hard to square with his apparent affirmation of Apostolicae Curae, which seemed to make those interested in ecumenism throw up their hand in despair, as far as I can remember.

 Posted by: Simon Cawdell Saturday 23 April 2005 - 03:12pm
Of course there is the doctrine of papal infallibility which comes into this. This might mean that a past encyclical must be affirmed at one moment, but that with appropriate adjustments to a view and a period of reception another view might emerge. But then the question or the circumstances will have altered.

 Posted by: Tony Friday 13 May 2005 - 05:20pm

I must have not noticed this post before, but from my (no doubt appallingly liberal) point of view, it is surprising and a relief to see Hans Kng recommended here!

pax et bonum

Tony Phelan


 Posted by: Simon Cawdell Saturday 14 May 2005 - 09:46am
Not so much recommended, as a representative of another point of view. Fulcrum is about space for debate! I haven't yet seen Huns Kung's views on the new pope, but perhaps they are unprintable givne the past personal history...


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